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Double Demerits - A reminder that double demerits for speeding and seat belt offences apply from today until midnight Sunday, 29 January 2012.

The MAA has released new Market Practice Guidelines, commencing 1 January 2012.  All insurers are required to comply with the guidelines, unless the MAA approves otherwise.

There have been some notable changes to the guidelines.

New to the guidelines is clause 2)f), which requires that all insurers will sell greenslips over the phone, including payment by MasterCard and VISA.

Clause 3)i)g, has been amended so that an insurer can no longer require a customer to go to the insurers Head Office to purchase a greenslip.

More on this later.

Why can we not have CTP cover for a motorcyclist who do not ever carry a pillion passenger? The likelyhood of me as a motorcyclist injuring another person is far far less than drivers of cars, 4WD's etc and yet my premium is almost twice the price.

A review of the Motor Accidents Authority (MAA) was released this week and some parties are not happy with the findings.

The NSW Parliamentary Law and Justice Standing Committee released its eleventh review into the MAA and the Motor Accidents Council (MAC) on Tuesday.  A copy of the report is available here.

Amongst other things, the report found that for the last five years there is a gap between the profit insurance companies project for the purpose of setting greenslip premiums and the profit they actually make.

The NSW Bar Association says that this represented a “fundamental flaw” in the greenslip scheme in NSW and, along with the NSW Greens, has called for an overhaul of the scheme.

The Insurance Council of Australia argues that the higher profits result from fewer claims on the scheme.

The NSW Government has announced that the average greenslip price for motorbikes will fall by up to 19% from 1 January 2012.  All motorbikes are to benefit except those in the 1,126 to 1,325cc class.

The real test will come when you renew your greenslip.  

Let us know how you go.  Respond to this blog with your experience.

The Government has issued a press release today stating that the Motor Accidents Authority (MAA), at the request of the Government, has rejected greenslip price increases of up to 15%.  The increased premiums were to come into effect from 1 January 2012.

Minister for Finance and Services Greg Pearce said in the release that motorists had been spared up to $57.00 and that the best price for Sydney metropolitan sedans will remain in the range of $460.00 to $480.00 from 1 January 2012.

A copy of the press release is available on this website.

Reports this morning that it took one hour and thirty minutes to travel from Heathcote Road to the airport tunnel on the M5.  Guess what?  They were still charging the toll!

If, as a "private" vehicle registrar would you not be able to have 2 modes of transport covered by 1 greenslip. You cannot operate 2 vehicles at once! I have a car and a bike and will use the bike in safe clear weather to keep my thirstier car off the road. I also use the bike for some more interesting road travelling. Therefore i will drive 1 at a time. If the greenslip system is designed to cover other peoples medical expenses that I may contribute to (accident) then why cant I have the one green slip cover the 2 vehicles I register. The rorting could be a factor if 1 person were to try and claim 10 vehicles as their own but surely this can be counteracted with a reasonable limit to 2 different forms of transport only (possibly 3). It is ridiculous to have to pay $1200-1400 dollars a year for greenslips on 2 vehicles used at different times.

For those interested, the Sydney Motorcycle & Scooter Show is on today, tomorrow and Sunday at the Sydney Convention & Exhibition Centre at Darling Harbour.  For those into motorbikes, it will certainally be worth a look.

There is an interesting article in today's The Daily Telegraph by Andrew Clennell, titled "Battle of $77 green slip lift".  The article says that the State Government, through the Motor Accidents Authority (MAA), is pushing back on requests by insurers for increased CTP greenslip premiums.

Under the current legislation, the MAA may reject a premium proposed by an insurer if, in its opinion, the premium will not fund liabilities under the scheme, the premium is excessive or the premium does not comply with guidelines issued by the MAA.

If the MAA and the insurer are not able to reach agreement on the premium, the matter may be resolved by an arbitrator agreed on by the parties, or in the absence of agreement on an arbitrator, by the Independent Pricing and Regulatory Tribunal (IPART).

The ABC ran a program last week looking at concerns over the eligibility of accident victims to compensation under the NSW CTP Greenslip scheme.  It is argued that the threshold for entitlement to compensation is too high.  To be eligible for compensation, accident victims must satisfy the 10% whole person impairment test.  The program also focuses on compensation paid out relative to the price of greenslips and insurer profitability. 

You can watch the program at http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-11-11/concerns-over-motor-compensation-review/3662050

Please explain why a CTP insurance is twice as expensive for my Motorcycle than my Landcruiser 4x4. If I understand this scheme correctly, I am far more likely to cause serious injury or death as a \"at fault\" driver/rider , to another road user, in my 2.7 ton 4x4 than I ever will, riding my Motorcycle, yet I pay twice as much??

I have commented in the past about cycleways in the Sydney CBD and feel compelled to do so again.  My comments this time are specifically about the cycleway in College Street, between the Cathedral and William Street.

I do not understand why cyclists run the risk in College Street traffic when there is a new cycleway running a parallel path.  Any week day afternoon there are many cyclists weaving through the traffic in College Street and yet the cycleway is largely unused.  Last Friday afternoon I witnessed an altercation between a driver and two cyclists at the William Street lights.

Something needs to be done.  College Street is dangerous for cyclists and for drivers.

If the cycleway is badly designed and in the wrong place, admit defeat and move it so that it can be used, otherwise get rid of the cycleway.  What is the point of retaining a cycleway that is not used?

Finally, if the cycleway is to be retained, then cyclists should be forced to use it. 

The NSW Centre for Road Safety & Roads and Traffic Authority NSW have issued new NSW Speed Zoning Guidelines.  The guidelines set out the principles for the application of speed zones in NSW.  A copy is available at this link.

Spent an hour surfing and such a simple question one would think. Can they make anything more confusing? MAA fact sheet 4 Benefits for Motorcycle Riders and Pillion Passengers has nice examples of riders covered with 100s of 1000s $ for ctp medical cover - but I assume these riders were not at fault?

As at June 1998, there were 13 insurers licensed to issue greenslips in NSW.  Today there are 7 licensed insurers.

The licensed insurers are AAMI, Allianz, CIC Allianz, GIO, NRMA, QBE & Zurich.

The 7 insurers are controlled by 5 companies.  Suncorp owns GIO and AAMI.  Allianz also owns CIC Allianz.

In the current debate about insurer profitability we need to keep sight of the fact that the State Government can not afford for any of the current insurers to withdraw from the scheme.

A reduction in the number of insurers, or companies which own them, could reduce competition, placing even greater pressure on greenslip prices.

We posted a News article yesterday, providing some stats and insight into the current debate on insurer profitability and claims exposure.

For the period 2000 to 2009, at the time of setting premiums, insurers estimated a weighted average profit margin of 8.0%.  For the same years, the estimated average profit and loss will average 19.6%.  More information is available in the News section of this website.

The RTA has released a new website, Safer Roads NSW.

The website is designed for the RTA to provide information and to receive feedback on the views of the community with regard to speed limits and speed limit signs on roads in NSW.  NSW residents can also sign up to receive email updates about permanent speed limit changes in NSW regions.

Worth a look.

Here are some interesting statistics taken from the issues paper on the future of registration labels:

In the 2010/2011 financial year, approximately 6.1 million vehicles were recorded by the RTA as registered in NSW.  97% of those are light vehicles with a GVM up to 4.5 tonnes.

In that year, 13,000 registration label offence penalty notices were issued according to the State Debt Recovery Office, at a cost of $88.00 for light vehicles.  That represents revenue the NSW Government will forego if it does away with registration labels, as is being considered. 

 More information on the issues paper is available on this site.

I hope you saw our News article during the week.

The NSW Government has commissioned a review of the need for registration labels for vehicles with a GVM up to 4.5 tonnes.

The report and recommendations are to be provided to the government by the end of the year.

Who knows, maybe when your rego is due next year, you will not need to replace the rego label.

I am happy to pay the price of Rego and Greenslip insurance. However I am a motorcycle enthusiast and I own and ride five different bikes. Why can we not design a system where people like myself, can get each of their bikes registered and plated, yet share the one greenslip. Lets face it I can only ride one at a time. We could also pay a huge fine if they ever found more then one of our bikes on the road at the same time, with out the registered owner. Also if we all have to pay these ridiculous prices for a greenslip for each vehicle (car or bike) we own then at least the MCIS levy, should only apply to the first vehicle registered only.

What is it with the new cycleways in the Sydney CBD?  Last night I was stopped in traffic on the corner of College & William Streets.  I watched 7 cyclists weave through the traffic, splitting lanes in College Street, yet the adjoining cycleway was empty.  Surely, where there is a cycleway the cyclists should not be allowed to ride on the road, otherwise get rid of the cycleway.

We have a new winner in our promotion ending 31 July 2011.  We offered to select one person who likes us on Facebook or who follows us on Twitter, for reimbursement of the cost of that persons greenslip (up to a maximum of $650.00).  The winner is Miss Christy @christyfrances who follows us on Twitter.  Congratulations.  We have sent a message to advise the winner.  Congratulations again.

Five of the seven greenslip insurers offer at-fault driver cover as an additional feature with greenslips, in addition to the legislated requirements.  On this site we identified issues in the policy wording used by the insurers which meant that whilst they promoted the benefits of at-fault driver cover, technically no such benefits were payable.  After more than two years, Allianz, the last of the insurers to rectify the policy wording has finally done so.

Just got my greenslip renewal and it has jumped by a MASSIVE $221.00! The excuse is that the MCIS is now listed separately - so what, sisnce when does it cost $221.00 to create a separate column on a greenslip? Whilst I understand and support the MCIS, where has this HUGE price hike come from? There has been no advisory that prices were going up, ONLY that it would be listed separately. First carbon tax... now this. How on earth are families supposed to afford to register their vehicles? Seriously... did I fall asleep and wake up in Greece? It appears that my motoring dollar has inflated by 33% in an instant. I didn't cause the floods, I don't push people out in front of cars, I don't push people's foot to the floor or make them drink and get behind the well. I'm lucky, I can afford to pay this - I HAVE to so I can drive to work so I can pay my private medical insurance, my taxes and soon the carbon tax - but what about people who can't. So much for 'I love a sunburnt country'... the ony thing that is burning at the moment is my budget...

It may be that I don't understand properly.... this is what I see. The CTP scheme is a way to fund healthcare for people injured in road accidents right? Healthcare is primarily provided by the state and CTP is mandated by the state to pay for it. So basically CTP is a tax- except that insurance companies get to collect it and keep a big chunk of it before passing it on to the state. Why not just make it part of the rego cost and cut out the private profits on what is essentially tax collection? Is the insurance industry lobby that strong? I'd vote for a political party on that point alone. Just seems like another aspect of the institutionalized corruption of NSW that makes it so expensive to live here.

I have greatly enjoyed riding my 250cc bike for the last 20 yrs for a few times per year. I will NOT be registering this time round due to the 89% Price Gouge, mostly on principle. And further, each time I start my Big 3-Tonne thristy 4WD in place of that "greener" bike, I will think of you, MAA, & you lovely Insurers... and the Bonus is the Big 3-tonne Thirsty 4WD CTP costs me the same. Go figure... Can someone explain though, why (if bikers do not get At-Fault Driver Cover), do we have to bend over and cop it sweet? Ah, when the revolution comes....

We have a new winner for the Like Us - Follow Us promotion which ran from 16 December 2010 to 31 March 2011.  We announced a winner on 1 April 2011; however we have not been able to get any response from that person.  Under the rules of our approval we were therefore required to select another winner today.  The winner is Fay Cameron.  We have sent a message to Fay to contact us and we will let you know when she does make contact. Congratulations Fay.
Do not forget that our current promotion is running until 31 July 2011.  On 1 August, we will be selecting another winner. If you have Liked Us on Facebook or Follow Us on Twitter, you are in the running.

If you want to buy a greenslip and renew your rego for six months, you must do it within 21 days of the registration renewal date, otherwise you will only be able to do it for twelve months.

I refer to my earlier post, Sydney Cycleways & Greenslips.

Last night I counted 9 cyclists in the traffic in College Street in the block between the Cathedral and William Street.  At the same time, there was not one cyclist in the new cycleway which is adjacent to College Street.  Surely it would be safer for cyclists in the cycleway. Not sure what the issue is with the cycleways.

Another trick set by greedyness. I purchased a 249cc scooter to try beat the rising cost of fuel/insurances/regos and what not. Last year my greenslip was $152.00. Its that time of the year again and was nearly knocked off my feet when i discovered that this year i will be forking out a min of $315.00. This is down right robbery and for what. If i cause an at fault accident, chances are that it will be me getting taken away on a stretcher and not the passengers in the car/four wheel drive/truck that i hit. This new ruling is down right unfair and will really hit home on myself and family that are already financially pressured with the everyday rising costs of living. Good work to the well paid politicians and ceo's of insurance companies that can obviously afford these rate rises!!!!!!

I own a 2008 Harley 1200 sportster and a Sachs madass 125. In December I registered the Sachs for a total sum of approx $350. Green-slip and registration combined. I am 36yrs old and have been a bike rider since 1994, I have never claimed, I have full comprehensive car and bike insurance etc. Last week I received my new green-slip renewal for my Harley. I also received my rego renewal the same day. The rego is $110. Now where I am confused, and I would love for someone, somewhere to come out and explain clearly and honestly to us all, " Why is my green-slip $700? " I cannot even to begin to understand how they decided that a motorcycle can cost $700 for a green-slip when my car is $500? Maybe there are too many "Silly" riders out there that cause too many insurance claims? Maybe the Government is scraping for its last resources and the poor motorcyclists are the only sector of society they haven't pillaged lately. I originally bought my Sachs 125 because I worked in the city and it was perfect for the commute. That bike weighs 90kg will do 200klm's on 5 litres of fuel, it doesn't even dent the grass, why isn't that $150 a year and my Harley I use to visit my family in the Blue Mountains and that weighs 240kg costs $14 to fill completely and uses about $8 from Revesby to Katoomba, if I happen to have an accident how much damage can I possibly do. Why is my Green-Slip $700 ?????? Please Explain to us all

Hi again, I came back to write a bit more because I researched and found why CTP insurance for bikes is so high. As I understand it, the Green-Slip covers not only those you may damage or injure, it also covers your medical bills. As we all know, a bike rider is going to have fairly high medical bills after an accident. But what I can't understand is, why no-one has explained this properly before? You see I think most of the NSW public is like me and think that you have a Greenslip to cover what you hit on the road and the medical of people you hit, and you have you comprehensive or property damage insurance to cover yourself and vehicle. So here's what I think, I think we should all fight back at the Insurer's by paying the Greenslip, but cancelling the insurance. (maybe just get the cheapest third party, fire and theft policy) The way I see it is, if we get covered either way why have two policies? That's the rip-off right there! It's an Insurance companie's little catch, they only cover enough on each policy to make you need the next one too. Why not charge a one-off yearly price that covers Car, Bike, Home, Greenslip, Boat etc. Instead of $1000 for this and $650 for that and $1200 for those. The Insurance Industry needs a big shake-up, why in other States is Registration under $500 for a car? Who want's to start an Insurance company with me?????

What is it about cycleways in the Sydney CBD? Cycleways have been installed at the expense of pedestrians and motorists. I think there is an issue with the design and location of the cycleways and I think there is an issue with the fact that cyclists do not bother to use them. It is rare to see a cyclist on the Kent street cycleway. Travelling south along College Street of an afternoon it is positively dangerous as cyclists compete with motor vehicles, running alongside an unused cycleway. Perhaps cyclists need some encouragement to use cycleways. One way to encourage cyclists onto cycleways may be to legislate that cyclists injured in an accident with a motor vehicle do not have access to benefits under the CTP greenslip scheme if the accident occurred adjacent to a cycleway that the cyclist could or should have been using!

Something to be careful of if you intend purchasing a 6 month greenslip.

6 month greenslips have an expiry date of 21 days.

If you do not renew your registration within 21 days of purchasing your six month greenslip, you will loose the otion of renewing your registration for 6 months and you will be forced to buy a new greenslip for 12 months.

This is the second time i use the calculator, easy and clear comparison, providing link to the provider for online purchase.

Congratulations to Tim White.

Tim is the winner of our Like Us - Follw Us promotion, running to the end of March 2011.

Tim will have the cost of his greenslip reimbursed.

For those who did not win, we are running the same promotion from 1 April until 31 July 2011...stay in, you could still win.

Thanks to all those who participated in the promotion.

I cannot understand how i have got 7 quotes and they are all within 8 dollars of each other the only reason for this is price fixing shame shame shame this is nsw for you

Our current promotion ends tomorrow.

Like Us on Facebook or Follow Us on Twitter for the chance to have the cost of your greenslip reimbursed.

For those who have entered....stay tuned.  We will announce the winner on Friday.

For those yet to enter, you still have tomorrow to do so.

Good luck.

Like us on Facebook or Follow us on Twitter for your chance to have the cost of your greenslip reimbursed.  Our current promotion closes at the end of this month.  We will select one person who has liked us on Facebook or followed us on Twitter and we will reimburse the cost of that persons greenslip, up to a maximum of $650.00.  To enter, simply click on the links on the right hand side of this page.

Good Luck

I have ridden and raced bikes all my life and now in my twilight years I ride a registered enduro bike 4 or 5 times a year 98% of that is in the bush . To do the right thing I register the bike. After recieving my latest green slip I have decided to let the rego go and take my chances.There will be a lot of trail riders doing the same. Why do they attack the people who want to do the right thing and push us to this point.

I too have been riding for over 17yrs and choose to ride a 250cc bike. Why should i be punnished for the poor riding skills of lerner riders. My bike green slip now costs more than my car green slip and i now i would do a lot more harm in an accidentm driving my car than i ever could riding my bike. Who is responsipble for making this change?> Someone needs to step up and explain the changes. Cost should be based on bike size and riding experience no just size!!!

Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to all our visitors.

Thank you for visiting the site during the year.  We hope we have been able to provide a valuable service.

Visit again next year.  You will see much more information and many new features added to the site.

Best Wishes.

We are pleased to announce our new promotion, which we are running until the end of March 2011.  You can have the cost of your greenslip reimbursed.  All you need to do to be eligible is to Like Us on Facebook or Follow Us on Twitter.

To Like Us or to Follow Us simply click on the links in the box on the right side of this page.

More information on the promotion is available on this site.

Good Luck!

What has engine capacity got to do with causing injury or death to a third party? How can a motorcycle (whatever the engine capacity) possibly cause the same amount of injury/death as a car? The MAA and the insurers need to come clean and explain how these costs are calculated. As the CTP system is compulsory the goverment should be trying to keep costs as low as possible and insurance companies should be limited to a base profit from this product.

i understand that they are targeting inexperienced higher risk riders.ie learners..who for the most part are subjected to 250cc bikes..but why not just increse the price due to licence grade not capacity of the bike. i have spent most my motorcycling life almost 20 yrs on smaller capacity bikes which are not learner leagle anyhow..production 2 strokes, for the reason that they are cheap to buy,own tyres, rego, insurance but now this will just kill even more especially older 250s... paying rego every year which is half the cost of the bike...who voted for this..!!!! dont we live in a demoracy dont we get a say...im sure the pple makin the decisions dont ride.

Premier Kristina Keneally this week has announced changes to the demerit point scheme and changes to the requirement for signage for mobile speed cameras.

Unrestricted licence holders will receive one additional demerit point for a total of thirteen and professional drivers will receive an additional two demerit points for a total of fourteen.

The period to which demerit points apply will remain at three years.

Demerit points will be reduced or removed for twenty-two driving offences.

Warning signs must be positioned at least fifty metres before vehicles containing mobile speed cameras and those vehicles must be signposted and marked in bright colours.

The News Release from the Premier setting out the changes is available on this site.

Yet another scam by the NSW government. I ride a 250cc bike and I don't want to go and get a larger bike, now my rego has effectively doubled, 89%. This is totally aimed at the learner engine capacity because most people at some stage must own a bike of that engine capacity. NSW, the most expensive state to live in, probably will not change even with a different government, but elections provide hope.

thanks for doubling my ctp on a 250cc dirt bike i ride 20 times a year off road. but some one else get a 7% saving for my 89% increase. summed up "money grab"

Who has ever heard of such a ridiculous cash grab! how about making 6 categories of classification, and reward those at the 250cc category for riding around on a less congestive vehicle burning less carbon...my CAR CTP is the same price as my 250cc bike! Kane

I'm sure you're getting plenty of these...but here's another complaint about the increase in motorcycle CTP. I've been riding bikes for more than 15 years and have NEVER had an accident either at fault or innocent. I've held comprehensive insurance every year for 15 years. I've NEVER claimed. Now you are increasing my CTP by 34.9% becasue I own a R1200GS. Hardly a "racing hoons" bike. Meanwhile I could by a supersports 600cc and receive a 27.3% discount. Have a look at yourselves. No wonder no one likes insurers. No wonder the NSW Labor Govt wouldn't face the protest. Disgraceful. A great way to get more people into more cars to further conjest our already overflowing roads. This increase is appalling. Surely if I take our comprehensive insurance there is no need for CTP. Agrieved? Angry? Annoyed? You bet!

Why has the cost of green slips nearly doubled in 18 months whilst a GFC took place, it has just cost me $1100 to register my car for one year. What am i rewarded with for my efforts? more congested roads covered in bike paths, more redlight and speed cameras trying there best to releive me of yet more hard earned cash and city rangers waiting to pounce if i dare to park within 10kms of the CBD!!!!!!! Us drivers should all get together and refuse to pay another penny to this corrupt self serving government!! Also am yet to see clover moore using the new bourke st bikepath!!!

We are getting feedback that some vehicle owners, particularly motorbike owners, are not purchasing greenslips and renewing the rego on their vehicles. Some owners are expressing the view that they are considering the risk of using the vehicle unregistered. Does this apply to you? Have you had to stop using your vehicle because of the cost of the greenslip? Express your view by commenting on this post.

Has the price of your greenslip gone up?

Tell us your experience!

Comment on our blog and let us know what is happening to your greenslip price.

I ride a 250 cc bike to work everyday to save on fuel and traffic congestion. What is my reward. A ridiculously more expensive green slip. Think I\'ll get back into my 4wd and become a road hog again. Really P****D off.

My green slip has risen 11.06% for the cheapest from 7 insurers and my car rego has risen 10.07% from last year. Who else can get a 10% + rise on their products, I wish I could, but I have competition!!!

Every year I receive my Greenslip renewal which is always more expensive than the others even though I chose the cheapest last year... I makes little difference who you buy if from (except perhaps the changes from 1 April). So... every year I change my provider, cause they expect us to be lazy and not check price comparisons, and that how they make the big bucks! Unfortunately, it will always be... let the buyer beware!!!

Thanks this increase is very unreasonable. I have a 1200cc bike and my wife owns a 250cc so it costs us heaps for machines we use in the summer months. Looks as though it will be 2 greenslips you don`t sell. No thanks Laurie

How can a price rise of between 88 and 102 % be justified for motorcyclists who ride a 250cc bike? Most of these riders are commuters - the ones who are saving petrol, traffic jams and the environment, but from 1st July 2010 will be slugged huge increases in green slip prices. The synic would guess that it is a greedy government targetting a significant riding population for maximum gain. i can not think of any situation where i have been slugged a 102% price increase in my 51 years of life to date. This is simply outrageous! What can be done?

QBE has contacted us to advise that despite current policy wording, it will honour at-fault driver cover policy claims, even if the at-fault driver also makes a claim under the amended (from 1 April 2010) ANF provisions of the CTP scheme.  QBE also advise that they will alter the at-fault driver cover policy documents in the next few weeks.  More information is available on this website.

We have raised an alert on this site and we have produced articles explaining the fact that at fault driver cover is not payable in the case of accidents occurring after 1 April 2010 because of the policy wording used by the insurers.  As of today (over 2 months later), the five insurers offering at fault driver cover continue to do so despite the fact that under the terms of the current policy documents, no benefits are actually payable.  We will continue to monitor the position.

Thank you to everyone who has entered our Tell A Friend competition.  Remember, the more friends you tell about our site, the more chances you have of being selected to have the cost of your green slip reimbursed.

You may have noticed that we have added new content and features since your last visit.  There is more to come.  greenslips.com.au has led the way in terms of documenting and explaining the changes to the CTP Green Slip scheme.  For a limited time, you also have the chance to win reimbursement of the cost of your greenslip, simply by telling a friend about our site. If there are other topics you would like us to cover or other features you would like added to the site, let us know.  We are happy to receive your feedback.  You can give us your feedback and suggestions by contacting us or by commenting on this post.

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Did you know that from 19 December 2009, learner drivers who take a one hour driving lesson from a fully licenced driving instructor can log three hours in their log book, to a maximum of 30 log book hours.  Also, learner drivers 25 years and older will be exempt from completing a log book.  More information on these and other changes is available at http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/licensing/gettingalicence/car/learners/index.html?llid=1

I have received many calls about the difficulty of making payment to renew CIC Allianz greenslips.  I called CIC Allianz today on 1300 889 214.  A recorded voice service advises that "a CIC Allianz greenslip can only be purchased by cash or cheque, in person, at Allianz head office, 2 Market Street Sydney".  The service also advises that "customers with a period of insurance commencing on or after 9 November 2009 will no longer be able to renew their greenslip using their credit card.  Renewal payments will only be accepted in cash or cheque".  When I spoke to an operator, I was advised that if I wanted to make a payment by credit card or if I did not want to travel into 2 Market Street to make a cash payment, I could go to a broker to make payment.  The operator could not tell me the names of any brokers who dealt with CIC Allianz.  The options of paying at a Post Office or Westpac are no longer available.  The operator said that the changes had been made because CIC Allianz is now focused on fleet customers.  The operator was prepared to sell me a Allianz greenslip, for which she was happy to receive payment by credit card over the phone.

Just received my NRMA greenslip renewal. Whopping increase from $392 to $678. I can still buy from a competitor for around $400. Guess you just vote with your feet!

There has been lots of press and discussion in the last few days about increases in the price of car insurance.  The GFC is being blamed for a reduction in investment returns....resulting in an increase in premiums.  It seems that the cost of both comprehensive insurance and greenslips has increased.

What is your experience.  Here is the chance to have your say.  Tell everyone how the cost of your greenslip or comprehensive insurance has increased.  Click on the link below and record how the cost of your car insurance has increased.

Remember, over the Christmas and New Year period double demerit points apply. Offences such as speeding are not only dangerous, but can result in hefty fines and the loss of your licence...and your driving record affects the cost of your greenslip.

Drive safely and enjoy the holiday period.

Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to all our visitors, supporters and friends. I hope the site has been a valuable resource in 2009. Stay tuned for 2010!!!! Thanks for your support from all at greenslips.com.au

It may be cheaper to make a move to Qld. How come up there they do not discriminate on the basis of driver age, postcode or driving record - these questions aren't even asked. Same price for the whole of the state and much cheaper than NSW.

What ever happened to driver courtesy?  Is it hard to let someone merge?  Is it too much trouble to wave and acknowledge when someone does you a favour in traffic?  I find it extremely frustrating when people will not let you merge.  Do they never need to merge?  Do they never need someone to let them into a line of traffic?  Life could be much simpler.  Treat other drivers with courtesy...and expect the same in return.  I feel better now!

The CTP on my motorcycle, Suzuki GS500F is due in February, so I thought I'd run a comparison of quotes before deciding on whether to stay with my current insurer, QBE, who quoted $337 for 12 months. I went into the MAA greenslip comparison site and this is what I was quoted: Insurer 6mth price 12mth price AAMI $273.00 $525.00 Allianz $196.00 $378.00 CIC-Allianz $198.00 $381.00 GIO $163.29 $313.04 NRMA $198.31 $381.92 QBE $176.00 $337.00 Zurich $267.00 $517.00 As you can see the cheapest is $313 and the most expensive $525 that's over $200 difference. You can't tell me that is fair!! Funny thing is, when I then got a quote for a brand new BMW K1200S motorcycle, guess what... all the quotes stayed the same apart from QBE who went up to QBE $265.00 $513.00 Something just doesn't seem right here !

I was just gob smacked when I received my greenslip renewal this year. I am 32 haven't had any accidents, and my greenslip for my little 1998 mitsubishi mirage has gone up by $280, they now want me to pay $628.76. This is with NRMA!! Hubby and I also have another car in my name a 2001 Holden Commodore and we only paid $385.09 earlier this year. Go figure how they work all this out!! The Commodore greenslip will probably be close to $1000.00 next year by the looks of things. This is just not acceptable!!!!

I am 29 years old. I turned into a good driver at the age of 25 (according to the insurance companies, anyway), and now all of a sudden I am a bad driver again? When I am 39, they will bump the age to 40. I am destined to pay more. But dont worry, the ACCC will look after us. (right after they fix the fuel price issue)

Hi I'm 29 years old. My greenslip renewal slip from AAMI for this year quoted me $421.00 which is exactly $100 more than what I paid for last year. I did an online quote on this website and all other insurers quoted around the same price. NRMA is the cheapest at $2.08 less than AAMI. Unusual for NRMA to be cheaper than AAMI, might have been the fact that I'm an NRMA member. I'm obviously a year older now and a bit wiser than I was last year so why I am getting slugged a hundred bucks more despite the fact that I have a 65% maximum no claim bonus rating, driving for more than 10 years and no accidents in the last 5. Does that not have any bearing at all? Are insurance companies not making enough money as it is?? I checked this website earlier and it did explain that insurance companies changed the age threshold for high risk drivers from under 25's to under 30's. I also did another online quote on this website and put my age as 30. Voila! GIO gave me the cheapest quote at $356.68 and with the best cover. But still - I am paying less when I was 28 than I will be at 30. This does not make any sense to me at all. This exercise only proved the fact that I am still a year away from being in the "non-high risk" category. There's an emerging pattern here. When I was 24, I longed to be 25 so I can pay less insurance. Now that I'm over 25, I'm still paying more! Now I long to be 30 so I can pay less. But what's next?? Let me guess, insurance companies will change the high risk category to under 35's?? Why is my age group being targetted?? Fair enough there's a handful of hoons in my newly expanded age group but there's also a lot of sensible drivers in this age group that do not deserve to be punished for a handful of people being stupid. Is it my own fault I was born in 1979? Is it our fault that the RTA gave a passing mark to these drivers that had accidents on NSW roads? There is clearly some degree of prejudice here. At this rate, there will probably come a time that I'm already 55 and I'm still in the high risk category. Then I'm just a few years away from another high risk category - the mature age group. (Now I'm not very sure about this, please correct me if I am wrong.) Insurance companies - clean up your act. Stop taking us ordinary motorists for a ride and expecting us to just cop it in the chin. We only want what is fair.

Hi, i've been driving for 6 years and i'm 24 years old, i have never had a accident, or ever had a speeding ticket, and because i'm under 25, i have to pay over $600 for a greenslip, why do good drivers have to pay so much, just because i'm under 25 doesn't mean that all drivers under 25 are bad drivers, i find this unfair that the government judge by the age group, yes there are drivers under 25 that are careless but not everyone under 25 is a bad driver, no one is a perfect driver but we shouldn't have to pay so much just for a greenslip cause of our age. If it's not the greenslip costing so much then it ends up being the rego plus stamp duty costing more.

There has been much press in the last few days about increases in the cost of greenslips.  The focus has been on the fact that some insurers have reputedly included drivers under 30 in the high risk category, previously for drivers under 25.  The reported result is a significant increase in the cost of greenslips for drivers under 30.  Is this your experience?  Regardless of your age, comment below and tell us how the price of your greenslip has changed.  If we receive sufficient response we will publish the results.  Click on the link below and let us have your comments.  Tell us of your experience with the cost of your greenslip.  Is the cost of your greenslip increasing?  If so, by how much?

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